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Post by zooke581 on Jun 18, 2014 21:43:11 GMT -5
Wow, got a couple a three holes there! My hood on my Military clone is quite rough. Took a lot out but left the rest. Someday I may do like you. Great work and patience.
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Post by athawk11 on Jul 16, 2014 22:48:45 GMT -5
I've been making some progress. Full discloser... The hood repairs have been going fairly well, but I've discovered that after many, many hours, I will need to spend many more getting it to a level that I would be happy with. In the interest of time, and because Walcks had an Independece Day sale, I purchased a new hood. I will continue to work this hood, but when time permits. The windshield has been reworked. It's turned out nicely. I had to replace a fair amount of metal and the rag top channel that runs along the top edge. I welded this on tonight, but didn't take any photos. I've been looking for the bracket that attaches the support gusset to the frame, but finally decided to just make one. The grill had some pretty bad rust through below the park light sockets and headlamp holes. The fenders are not original to this Willys. Based on the repairs needed, I believe they were once on a Willys that had a V6 or V8 engine which required cut outs for dual exhaust. They were then put on this Willys where the PO made quick and sloppy repairs to close off the cut outs. Lee from Minnesota was kind enough to sacrifice an old fender. He sent me the louvers portion of the driver side fender. I cut out the old repair and welded the louvers in place. The passenger fender just needed the old repair fixed up a bit. And, of course dozens of holes were filled. The grill and fenders were dropped off at the sandblaster today. Once returned, I'll make some final welding repairs, then prep all the sheet metal for paint. I was hopping to have this done in time for the Fall Colors Tour. I'm beginning to have my doubts. Work is really busy right now. The long hours leave little time for Willys fun. Tim
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Post by Haines Garage on Jul 16, 2014 22:58:35 GMT -5
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Post by zooke581 on Jul 17, 2014 11:29:34 GMT -5
Nice work. Looking fantastic!
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Post by bobtorowski on Jul 18, 2014 20:16:08 GMT -5
Your work is very nice. Are you a professional Mechanic or Body Man? It seems you have had some training a least. I like this thread. Good welding, and saving old parts.
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Post by athawk11 on Jul 18, 2014 21:36:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments fellas. I appreciate it. Bob, no formal training. Zero experience working on cars. I just went through the Willys school of hard knocks when I turned this... Into this.... This was the first time I ever tried something like this. It took a couple years, of successes and failures, but eventually I got it figured out. Tim
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 7:27:47 GMT -5
Clean Machine. When you focus on something, you give it your all. A good quality to have. I do wonder though, are you going to flame the hood to match the bell housing on your current Jeep you are working on? Oh, have you named your Jeeps yet? Funny how that is a common thing among Jeep owners. I've forgotten, are you a Willys or Willis type? That battle continues. Fun . John
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 8:04:29 GMT -5
Tim, that is fantastic work! Thanks for posting!
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Post by athawk11 on Jul 19, 2014 18:15:12 GMT -5
Leaker...I am a Willeeeeezz guy! I generally stay out of those Willis-Willys discussions for fear the Willissss guys will have an aneurysm. Jpet...thanks for having a look see. I really appreciate the feedback. Unfortunately, I must report a setback. As most of you know, I have been driving the chassis on a regular basis. This wasn't to make my neighbors chuckle. It was solely for the purpose of weeding out minor or major issues before I go through the trouble of a full assembly. In the last few runs, I have developed a gear grind when shifting into 2nd gear. I also have a weird rumble coming from the bell housing at certain RPMs, but that isn't my concern at this point. My gear grind is sporadic. At low RPM shifting, it's smooth. At higher RPMs, the grind is subtle, but there. It also does it a bit when shifting from 3rd back to 2nd. So, today was spent removing the transmission, and buying a rebuild kit. I found a guy that has NOS blocking rings. Both NOS from India and from the USA. He is going to send me a set of each. I also bought another master rebuild kit that is likely from MD Juan or some other off shore manufacturer. I have studied all the rebuild guides and videos. I will start by taking my current tranny apart, then re-assembling it a number of times before the new parts go in. Should be fun. Tim
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Post by Haines Garage on Jul 19, 2014 21:08:18 GMT -5
Uhhhhh Ohhhhhhhh!!! That stinks ! I know you will get it straight . Need some gaskets?
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Post by zooke581 on Jul 19, 2014 23:03:56 GMT -5
That is one fine looking Jeep there. Puts mine to shame.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 7:28:23 GMT -5
Tim, The rumbling from the bell housing, check your pressure plate and clutch disc springs. Uneven spring tension on the pressure plate fingers will cause a dragging clutch which means it doesn't always let the disc turn free. That will make for grinding when shifting. The springs in the disc get loose and try and hammer their way out of the pockets and give "chatter" when engauging the clutch. Just went through all this with my '48. I've had pretty good luck buying my parts from Peter Debella and asking for USA made stuff. I find it works better than off shore stuff. It seems whenever I get cheap on tranny rebuilding, I wish I had not done that when it's all back together. Your mind sees what's going on inside. It's better that you found it before the body was back on. Way easier now than later. John
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Post by athawk11 on Jul 20, 2014 8:17:47 GMT -5
HG, I still have the gaskets you sent me. I used a sealed bearing on this tranny, so I didn’t want to waste them.
Zooke, Your first rebuild was your tester. Your next restore will be a gem.
Leaker, Interesting… My rumble starts after the engine is warm. It does it when the clutch is engaged, when I am accelerating in gear and when giving throttle when in neutral. Do your symptoms still apply?
I thought maybe a funky pressure plate or the crankshaft bushing is sloppy. This clutch, pressure plate and bell housing are from a CJ5.
Tim
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 12:04:05 GMT -5
If it does it with the clutch engauged, then no, I'd be looking at bearings. Including too much slop in the flywheel bushing. Can you use a mechanics stethoscope and probe around with it running making the noise? I found a problem that was driving me nuts that way. It was a steady knock like a deep bad main bearing. On a chevy 327 small block. Lifter type , exhaust leak clatter. It ended up being a weak fuel pump spring letting too much slack between the pump and cam lobe. When I put the stetoscope on the pump, it about broke my ear drum! John
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Post by athawk11 on Jul 20, 2014 18:35:19 GMT -5
Well...I'm not sure what my issue is.
I took the transmission apart...then reassembled...took apart...assembled...took apart... and assembled.
I didn't take out the counter shaft or the main shaft that sticks out the front...just the shaft that has the 1st/reverse, 2nd gear, and the synchro HUD assembly.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, the transmission looks to have gone through a recent overhaul. All the parts that wear out look fresh and new...the 3 little paws, the brass blocking rings...everything. My hands were covered in oil, so I didn't take photos, but there are still grooves/ridges on the inside of the brass rings. They don't seems to ride up too far on the tapered seats either.
There was some minor pitting on the 14 pilot bearings where this shaft inserts into the main shaft on the front side, so I do plan to replace all the small parts and dress up the teeth on the 1st/reverse, reverse idler, and the counter shaft gear. I will compare the syncro rings to the new set once I get them. I want to see if there really is any wear.
I think my issue may be in the clutch. I went ahead and ordered a new pressure plate, clutch, bushing and throw out bearing. My throw out bearing is new, but it read that there are different lengths. I installed a new 3A bearing, but I might need the 5A bearing in this application. (I'm not even sure if they're different.)
So...the tranny is getting a rebuild. The clutch system will all be brand new.
For a thrasher, this thing has really become a money pit.
Tim
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Post by zooke581 on Jul 20, 2014 19:57:03 GMT -5
For a thrasher, this thing has really become a money pit. Tim Seems to be the same with mine. All the gaskets I put on are fine the old ones are all leaking now. Need to take it apart and put all new gaskets and seals on the transfer and trans.
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Post by Haines Garage on Jul 20, 2014 20:14:59 GMT -5
I have met you in person and I consider you my good friend There is no way you could put something together being shortcoming or cheating or taking shortcuts!! This I know one hundred percent Money pit perhaps but inevitably a fantastic flat fender jeep! I have great faith in you my friend and can't wait to see how you figure this problem out!
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Post by Haines Garage on Jul 20, 2014 20:18:11 GMT -5
Thrasher my ass and it's pronounced Willis!!! I will turn you!!! Mark my words.....
I have been watching your career with great enthusiasm !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 22:32:41 GMT -5
Haines, I will turn you sounds like a vampire. Tim is a believer in the Willys Force and not the Willliiiis dark side. No Darth Vaders allowed! . Don't let him get to you Tim. We shall prevail! May the force ( willys) be with you! Signed Sir Leaker
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Post by athawk11 on Jul 28, 2014 20:53:04 GMT -5
Well, here they are. NOS synchro rings...Made In The USA. Ironically, they came all the way from Athens, Greece. Go figure.... I'm almost ready to rebuild the transmission and clutch system. My clutch kit has arrived, but the pilot bushing is missing from the box. I'm hoping to get this issue resolved soon. I put some effort into finishing up the grille. A small amount of filler along with a half dozen coats of filler primer with sanding in between. Smooth as a babies bottom... Next installment, T-90 Transmission. Tim
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Post by Haines Garage on Jul 28, 2014 21:00:37 GMT -5
Very Very Nice !!! I have never seen those stamps ! Wow !! That grill looks great too !
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Post by Haines Garage on Jul 28, 2014 21:01:47 GMT -5
I have met you in person and I consider you my good friend There is no way you could put something together being shortcoming or cheating or taking shortcuts!! This I know one hundred percent Money pit perhaps but inevitably a fantastic flat fender jeep! I have great faith in you my friend and can't wait to see how you figure this problem out! See ....
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Post by athawk11 on Aug 12, 2014 14:00:10 GMT -5
What up fellas? Just a short update. I have rebuilt the tranny. This went well. Far less difficult than I thought it would be. As a matter of fact, at this point, I may be able to do this in my sleep. I had pulled it apart, then reassembled it so many times while waiting for parts. I might be able to claim I've rebuilt 10 of 12 T-90 Transmissions. I also installed the new clutch, pressure plate, bearing, bearing retainer and bushing. I reassembled Whitey and fired her up. Tried to slide her into 1st...and ...Grrrr-Grr-Gr...Gear grind. The clutch wouldn't disengage. I dittled around with the clutch cable for half a day, but still couldn't get the bearing to throw far enough to disengage the clutch. I thought, 'Maybe I didn't get the clutch fork in the right place.' I thought, 'Maybe the bearing carrier (new) is wrong.' I thought, 'Maybe the cable is wrong.' After a whole day of useless contemplation and even more useless fidgeting, I pulled the drive train from the bell housing, back. Everything looks as it should...except... Is the clutch fork worn? Is the pivot/fulcrum worn out? Perhaps. The fork looked okay, but the pivot looked pretty bad. It may not let the fork pivot enough to disengage the brand new and thicker clutch disc. I've got a new fork and fulcrum on the way. If this doesn't solve my problem, I don't know where to go next. I'm troubled. Very, Very Troubled. Tim
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Post by zooke581 on Aug 12, 2014 16:53:04 GMT -5
Did you adjust the arms with the adjustments nuts on the clutch to specs like the repair manual states?
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Post by athawk11 on Aug 12, 2014 18:43:53 GMT -5
Hi Zooke,
I've read about adjustable fingers. I did look at the pressure plate, but the nuts are pre set and welded into place.
I don't know if this makes a difference, but the flywheel, pressure plate, bell housing and starter are from a CJ5.
Good thought though. I may need to investigate further.
Tim.
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