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Post by athawk11 on May 3, 2013 10:44:27 GMT -5
I've been wanting to start a project thread here at the IFFC, but here is my problem...  The weather just will not cooperate here in Colorado, USA. Whitey runs, but geeze, what a disaster...  In an attempt to hold this tub together, the PO welded plate steel all over this thing. Check out the back side...  I found a donor tub, but it's almost as bad as the original.  I guess I have to start somewhere. How about repairs to the rear cargo area. This is the floor from the donor tub. The original floor is gone.  Anyone else would probably take this to the scrap yard. I can't afford a $400 floor for the back of a $1000 Willys. More to come. Tim |
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Post by Haines Garage on May 3, 2013 13:20:52 GMT -5
Sir Hawkridge is at it again!!! Fantastic......More More More.
Thanks for the post Tim
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 17:17:30 GMT -5
Aaah the master is back at it!. This will be interesting, I will be watching and taking note's. Tim how about keeping the snow in Colorado!, you keep sending it our way and I do not like it, LOL
Lee
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Post by scoutpilot on May 4, 2013 4:54:26 GMT -5
Do I detect an an O/D or a PTO?
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Post by athawk11 on May 5, 2013 18:59:19 GMT -5
Thanks for peaking in fellas. Lee, I wish I could control Mother Nature. She can be a real B*&%* sometimes!  SP, It has a PTO, but none of the cool stuff, like the rear shafts or gear box. The PO rigged up a combination of gears, knuckles, an od shaft, and some chain to run a winch on the front. None of this stuff will be going back on. I'll take some pictures of the underside. It will crack you up!! ;D  Tim |
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Post by Haines Garage on May 5, 2013 19:22:01 GMT -5
So an FUedPO !!!! LOL!
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Post by athawk11 on May 5, 2013 19:42:34 GMT -5
Okay HG, I'm cleary not up with the SC lingo. What is a FUedPO? |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 21:42:24 GMT -5
Tim, I have been to his house (HG) and may have picked up a little of the lingo there and Scoutpilot says we can only use words found in the bible on the site, so Haines, I believe has made reference to the previous owner and what a complete bubba hack job that he or she (I am being politically correct) has done on the pto setup. You are very correct on the South Carolina slang thing as Haineses reference is a result of absorbing the Gullah-Geechee culture of the MT. Pleasant area. LOL, Lee |
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Post by Haines Garage on May 6, 2013 14:51:14 GMT -5
An F'ed Up P TO ..............Now I am laughing MFAO! Crying actually!!
Dat My PTOH Butch.....Tahts how the Gullahs be sayin it... Shooowwwt
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2013 19:30:31 GMT -5
See Tim, that's what I am talking about!
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Post by Haines Garage on May 6, 2013 19:45:58 GMT -5
Funny Funny.....
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Post by athawk11 on May 11, 2013 9:13:39 GMT -5
As promised, I wanted to post some photos of the underside. Note the condition of the tub sheet metal. This is the PTO and the sprocket set up…  As we move forward, you can see the shafts and knuckles…  We eventually pop out the front and encounter another sprocket…  All of the above to drive this monstrosity…  When I drive this Willys, it feels underpowered. As I peel back the layers, I begin to understand why. First, the tire diameter is absurd. Add layers of thick plate steel over the existing sheet metal, and a winch set up that weighs in excess of 200lbs and I begin to understand why.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2013 10:26:33 GMT -5
WOW, I bet the pillow block bearings exceed 200 lbs, I will give the fabricator credit for a decent job of what he had to work with. Is that a classic Cherry Bomb muffler! that's good for 10 hp just being there, LOL. Thanks for the photo's, interesting as always. Lee |
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Post by athawk11 on May 22, 2013 10:00:24 GMT -5
Okay Gents, I’ve got some updates to share. Through this process, I have often thought that buying a new tub would have made more sense. The PO was a welder, but he wasn’t a primer/painter. As this Willys rotted away, it made sense to the PO to just weld new plate steel right over the rusty cancer. There are places on this tub that have 3 layers of sheet metal. I am literally having to peel back the layers on this onion…  I’ve got the donor floor all patched up….  I made some hat channels for the cargo area. I primed the surfaces and welded them on…   With the donor tub and the original rear panels, I was able to salvage enough to patch, cut, weld, and hammer/dolly them into shape…   I’m now working on the wheel houses. I have one decent 2A wheel house and one decent 3A wheel house. This is going to be a ‘Thrasher’, but I just can’t have mismatched wheel houses. I don’t want to be called ‘Bubba’ by the next owner. So, what to do? Time to modify the 2A wheel house to match. But how? More to come… Tim |
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Post by Haines Garage on May 22, 2013 21:28:16 GMT -5
Looking Great Sir Hawkridge! Fantastic job on the patch panels...
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Post by athawk11 on May 23, 2013 9:56:02 GMT -5
HG,
I hope you like it. If I get it done, this will be the Willys you get to drive at the Fall Colors Tour 2013!!! ;D
Tim
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Post by Haines Garage on May 24, 2013 22:41:05 GMT -5
HG, I hope you like it. If I get it done, this will be the Willys you get to drive at the Fall Colors Tour 2013!!! ;D Tim I am most flattered.....Seriously.  |
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Post by athawk11 on May 30, 2013 10:58:59 GMT -5
Of Course I'm serious!!  I'll have this bad boy back together in no time ...  But I have heard we have a back up plan just in case. Jpet offering to let you drive GW?? That's a real honor!  Tim |
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Post by Haines Garage on May 30, 2013 21:00:39 GMT -5
As I am sure you will...I just can't wait to see this deal in person . And Yes, EPIC is a GOOD word! |
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Post by athawk11 on Jul 6, 2013 7:33:23 GMT -5
It's been a while since I offered any updates. The tub is still the priority. I have one wheel house from the 2A tub and one from the original 3A that are usable. I will need to modify the 2A wheel house. Both the length and the angles at the front will need to be adjusted...    Just like everyone that takes on a tub, the front panels below the cowl are a mess. I will need to perform more surgery...      Time to make the floor pans. I used 16 gauge for these...  To bend the flanges, I used a couple heavy pieces of angle bolted together with the panel sqeezed in between. I then heated the metal and used a hammer to bend then into shape...    Time to shape them to the existing tranny hump. I clamped them in postion, traced, cut, then welded them up...    OOPs. Forgot. Prior to welding the pans, I needed to properly postion the hat channels. This kit requires assembly. I put the tub on the frame, then aligned the channels to the frame mounting holes and the tub...  I clamped the channel pieces together, then welded them up...  Once they were welded, I put the tub back on, then postioned the channels...  I marked the channel position, then primered them and the underside of the tub where the channels will be welded. I put some effort into taping off the weld points. I've used this approach before. I don't know if it will help the tub last longer. I doubt I will be around to find out...   Time for a lot of plug welding...  Turned out pretty nice...   I'm now in a postion to 'assemble' all the tub pieces. Stay tuned... Tim |
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Post by Haines Garage on Jul 6, 2013 18:15:10 GMT -5
Sir Hawkridge. That is some very nice work you are doing there I am most impressed! Want to come over and help me with my tub ;D Great pictures! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 18:24:16 GMT -5
Tim, outstanding work, whose hat channel did you use?, again very nice work. Lee |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 19:18:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure why, but I love watching people do sheet metal work...especially when it comes to rebuilding jeep tubs. You are doing a great job! Thank you for sharing the pictures.
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Post by athawk11 on Jul 6, 2013 20:52:16 GMT -5
Thanks for taking a look. I like a challenge, but geeeeez.
Lee, I got the hat channel kit from Midwest Military. This is the second one I bought from them. You just can't beat the quality or price.
Tim
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 21:44:41 GMT -5
Lookin good Tim, off topic here but it suprises me how many Willys people own Kubota tractors, I often see them in the rear areas of project photo's, I have an M6800. Lee |
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