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Post by zooke581 on Jul 29, 2014 22:09:49 GMT -5
Need to bolt the shift tower on, cotter pin the output gear and bolt down the back cover. Then ready for install.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 7:09:04 GMT -5
The # 1 killer of these parts is water. Once it gets in, it rusts the needle rollers and shaft bearings. Yours looks pretty good. Any tranny/transfer that sat outside in the rain and snow is half full of water. The rain moves down the shifter can and enters as if it was funneled in. Most M38's had a shifter boot to work with the waterproof idea that clamped to the cane and tranny shifter top. If you run open in your CJ, that would be a good upgrade to install. I pressure washed the heck out of mine before I took it apart and it was half full of water in just that period of time. The new CJ shifter boot is too tight on the cane and usually splits. I've actually die grinded it to stop that, but there is no substitute for the M38 boot. I've sealed all the through bolts with permatex, installed the sealing washers on the bolts, permatexed all gaskets, made sure the vent was clean and functional, new seals and good yoke surfaces, etc. They ALL eventually leak. Hence my handle-----Oilleaker!!!!!! Those gears when spinning build up a internal pressure. It actually wicks the gear oil up and into the transmission through the shaft bearings. No wonder they leak. The older T84 for WW2 was notorious for raising the transmission level and then it leaked forward out the input shaft of the transmission and dripped a pool of oil on the floor. Some guys drilled a return hole at the correct upper level. Some T 90's already have this. The other fix was to put in sealed bearings on the mainshaft and sealing the shaft splines at the rear. I actually saw where a guy built a return tube from the fill plug on the transmission back to the transfercase fill. CRAZY!!!! You take great pictures! John
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Post by zooke581 on Aug 17, 2014 20:37:20 GMT -5
I wanted the rear axle on Short Round to look the part. Nothing is worse to me than a replica and the rear axle is a CJ. So I happened to be looking at other projects one day and lo and behold...none other than jpet had made exactly what I needed. Faux Floater ends for your CJ axle. I had msgd him about what I needed and set about doing so. I traded a set of "F" marked GPW rear seat hooks for a set of repro ones and a set of bad front brake hubs with the brake part pressed off. I had these brake hubs sent to jpet of him work his magic on. He turned down the brake backing plate as I didn't need it that thick and didn't want my wheels spaced out that far anyway. He then made a set of axle ends out of aluminum for me to bolt on.  |
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Post by zooke581 on Aug 17, 2014 20:45:18 GMT -5
Hubs and axle ends blasted, primed and ready for paint.  The rear axle and wheel as they looked before installing the Faux Floaters.  The finished project. I opted to have the bolts used in aiding the removal of the rear floater axle added as I had seen this done on a couple of jeeps. I guess they kept them there so as not to loose them. People came up to me and told me a had a couple of bolt loose on my jeep. Had to explain. It was fun.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 21:20:58 GMT -5
Need to bolt the shift tower on, cotter pin the output gear and bolt down the back cover. Then ready for install. Zookie, looking over your trans/tc I noticed your pivot stud for the clutch linkage is very wore, you may want to replace that. Lee  |
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Post by zooke581 on Aug 17, 2014 21:28:39 GMT -5
Thanks. I have already done that. The one on the current transfer is new and the on I put on is like new. But thanks again for the heads up.
I haven't put it in yet as I had this car show at the Veterans center this week and didn't want to have to work out any bugs on such short notice. Hopefully this week when the new bushing comes in. Don't want to put this in without a new bushing.
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 14, 2014 20:46:16 GMT -5
Time to address the leaky transmission. Have a rebuilt and resealed one ready to go. With a few beers and some motorcycle parts to pay for some labor (Can't lift much for awhile) got the old one out and new one in. Old leaky transmission. Leaks at both output seals and in between the transmission and transfer. Also at the front input shaft housing.  Transmission out and ready for new rebuilt one.  Shaft bushing looked good and still had the inner ridge on it. I checked it out with a spare shaft.  |
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Post by Haines Garage on Sept 14, 2014 20:51:13 GMT -5
Major .
Should you like a bell housing to transmission gasket ?
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 14, 2014 20:51:29 GMT -5
Interesting transmission mount plate. Looks to possibly be out of an M38. There were several military parts on a civilian jeep I purchased for parts.  New trans and transfer in place. Was actually easy with levers removed. They were also easy to reinstall.  When installing the parking brake cable I noticed the brake arm was wrong. Guess this too was for the shorter M38 or MB/GPW brake cable. So I had to remove the yoke and parking brake and backing plate to install the proper arm and rewire the bolts again. |
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 14, 2014 20:58:31 GMT -5
Got everything topped off and took it out for a spin. At first all was great shifted smooth but stiff with the new parts. On the way home and coming down hill it the transfer popped into neutral. Thought it was fluke and took it for a longer sping. Shifting got a little harder and wouldn't down shift without slight grinding and and the transfer popped out again. Then all gears became somewhat harder to shift into. Looked at the clutch while shifting and it wasn't pushing in far enough.
Got home and adjusted the clutch and checked the transfer and the popped spring was too weak. Thinner windings than both my other transfers. One was broken but had a good heaver spring and put it in.
Adjusted the clutch cable. Changed back to that as opposed to the rod I had previously.
Another run and all is smooth and working well. Shifting and transfers stay in gear.
One more check for leaks and yes. Was leaking out of the bolt right above the brake cable where the transfer mounts to the trans. Replaced the lock washer with a copper washer and no more leaks.
Now on to the bad rear springs.
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 14, 2014 21:54:06 GMT -5
Major . Should you like a bell housing to transmission gasket ? This one already got the rubber one like the one you sent me. The one you sent me is going on the next build. |
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 14, 2014 21:54:55 GMT -5
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Post by Haines Garage on Sept 15, 2014 7:06:30 GMT -5
Sorry Major,
I forgot I sent those to you.
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 15, 2014 21:22:34 GMT -5
So far I am really happy how this turned out. My first transmission and transfer rebuild on a four wheel street/off road vehicle. I have done many motorcycles.
Had a 47 2A in Wyoming back in 83 to 85 and it popped out of second. Had a friend that was a mechanic rebuild the transmission. After I put it back in it popped out of 2nd still.
I did better than he did and I feel great today. And no leaks. Not to address the oil leaks for the oil gauge on the engine and the gauge, the stupid fuel pump which I hear is a common problem with aftermarket military style fuel pumps and the one striped out oil pan bolt I have.
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 16, 2014 21:19:15 GMT -5
Working on the rear springs now. Cleaned up the rust on the set in the garage and will coat with Eastwood Rust Encapsulator tomorrow. Ordering U clamps, bronze bushing, springs clamps from Debella tomorrow. Should cure that weak spring look in the Powhatan Parade picture. Got an okay from the Miniseries yesterday. Was delayed by a few days. This is going to be fun.
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 17, 2014 19:16:55 GMT -5
If you look at the picture closely. The right rear spring does not look right. It has a bad bend near the front mounting point. The third leaf it wearing into the second causing it to be weak.  I have a set already apart in the shop that will be cleaned of rust.  Rear 9 leaf set cleaned of rust and coated with rust encapsulator.  |
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 17, 2014 19:18:33 GMT -5
New shackles, bushings, bolts and spring clamps ordered from Debella's today.
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Post by athawk11 on Sept 17, 2014 21:42:58 GMT -5
Nice project. Are they ever really done?  Tim |
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 17, 2014 22:09:05 GMT -5
Nice project. Are they ever really done? Tim Tim, Following your exploits, no, they are never, ever, really done. It is the journey that is what I most enjoy. The knowledge gained and the satisfaction in getting each step along the completed. |
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 18, 2014 8:52:38 GMT -5
Anyone know what's wrong with this picture? Hint: measure twice.  |
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 27, 2014 18:52:40 GMT -5
Another addition to Short Round. I have had the Jerry can holder for quite a while. I have seen Jerry cans mounted on the front step before in pictures. I wanted to do the same but not with metal straps where it would be at an angle and bounce around the fender. Also it needs to be clear of the windshield so it can easily fold down. I saw on the G503 that brackets off trucks and Half tracks were used. Someone put up pictures and measurements. So now it is mounted and awaiting the straps and water can.   |
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Post by Haines Garage on Sept 27, 2014 20:14:20 GMT -5
That is CAS!!!
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 29, 2014 20:40:42 GMT -5
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Post by zooke581 on Sept 30, 2014 20:34:53 GMT -5
Well the transmission now pops out of second gear on decel. So I guess a new sync gear and second gear are in order. Isn't it fun working on Jeeps. Can't wait to get all the drive train stuff worked out so I can start buy more goodies to clutter it up with. It's still drivable so with other projects to get done before winter I will take my time on the transmission on the floor that I took out. I just took it apart today and it looks great but that one did grind going into third. So...I get the second gear and sync gear and small rebuild kit to get this one ready. The other one I will do later for the MB/GPW in the other side of the garage and another story. Glad I got this transmission and transfer in and out of the jeep down to a science.  |
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Post by zooke581 on Oct 9, 2014 6:48:26 GMT -5
New addition arriving soon. Going to put it on the front of the jeep. Don't have any rounds so a great place for storage for incidentals. A Pak 75 crate dated 1944.  |
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The straps this time I got from Walck's and was surprised at them. Not military grade and real cheap. Thin, dark green and the tip of the strap just pulled off when I went to strap it down. I will be replacing it with the proper one soon. For now it works.
