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Post by Haines Garage on Nov 13, 2015 21:56:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 23:49:24 GMT -5
A couple things, if you spray 24087 on a ww2 jeep, you will not be happy. How bout loading up the paint gun and squirting a few stripes on that White garage wall for compairison ?......... What do you reduce with with RFJP Paint, Gillespie recommends Zylene...... Is Rons paint Gillespie paint with his label ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 0:46:42 GMT -5
I've always mixed it with xylene and have never had any issues. I can't recall where, somewhere on his parts website, it had the painting instructions. Lowes, in this unruly state of SC, still sells xylene.
I painted my old M37 in that semi gloss. Use that and send me your WW2 cans. Weasie and the Goat Coach could use a light dusting. And then I'll go find another project to use the rest of it on!
He stiffed you on the candy again!!!! Bwahahahahaha! Way to go Ron! Two Haines Garage thumbs up on that Halloween trick!
I like Lee's idea of testing the colors on your garage.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 7:00:46 GMT -5
You will find that 24087 is quite glossy. It will show any imperfection you missed in your bodywork. The 33070 is much more forgiving, and in my mind looks more correct. Just my opinion. Whatever you do, mount up your body so you can rotate it to a 45 degree angle. If you paint it up right or flat, you will have a bitch of a time painting up under the dash, and along the top side panels of the rear wheelwells. Also try and paint starting up wind and move down with the flow. If you have a booth, same thing. The front fenders are much easier to paint wood screwed to the ends of a saw horse in a up right position. I would also seam seal the floor edges, and especially in front of the rear wheels inside the wheel wells where the water off the tires tries to fill up the tool box and under the gas tank. Remember, OD paint is the most forgiving paint other than flat black. Even I can perfectly reproduce a GI quality paint job. I believe what you have is made for Ron by Gillespie Paint. Ron is a good guy. I buy my WW2 stuff from him and others. No complaints with Ron. He is a hands on business guy. Oilly
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 7:24:36 GMT -5
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Post by Haines Garage on Nov 14, 2015 7:59:01 GMT -5
From the get go, I have used the Semi Gloss OD Green.
From what the product label states this paint is manufactured for RFJP by Rhodda Paint.
The tub is a point where I feel good about painting it.
That may change when I get it into the daylight.
I would not call it perfect by any means.
I will do some painting today I believe.
My intention is to do the underside first.
I will report back.
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Post by athawk11 on Nov 14, 2015 8:50:31 GMT -5
I will do some painting today … My intention is to do the underside first. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 11:09:19 GMT -5
The 33070 is much more forgiving, and in my mind looks more correct. Oilly I think you meant 23070.. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 17:22:34 GMT -5
No, no---------362436!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 20:16:56 GMT -5
No, no, no, no !! 8675309!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 23:04:40 GMT -5
Try this!
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Post by Haines Garage on Nov 14, 2015 23:32:01 GMT -5
OK..........
Somebody has been really pulling the stumps!
What the hell does that last video post mean?
Buy the way, that song SUCKS!
Three Dog Nights......Fing Hippie Weidos!
WTF!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 7:09:34 GMT -5
OK.......... Somebody has been really pulling the stumps! What the hell does that last video post mean? Buy the way, that song SUCKS! Three Dog Nights......Fing Hippie Weidos! WTF!!!! Seems someone has been huffing primer fumes!....... Numba "1", and it's a classic.  So spray that in your garbage bag and huff it!, negative nelly Bastage!  |
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Post by Haines Garage on Nov 15, 2015 8:47:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 9:34:06 GMT -5
Btw, if you started the project with Gillespie, why not finish it with Gillespie, just sayin!.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 14:18:59 GMT -5
I painted mine with Ron's paint and it is very easy to work with. It, along with any other xylene based paint I've worked with has very little tolerance to gasoline exposure so if you spill a little gas out of you fuel filler, wipe it off immediately..... Better yet, dab it off more than wiping. You will see the paint come off on the rag if you wipe too much. The gallon cans are easy to spray and clean up but the thing I don't care for with Ron's paint are the rattle cans. The tips clog immediately and I can't seem to clean them up even with a solvent. If you start to use a rattle can, I'd recommend using the whole can. If you let the can sit for even a day, the next day it will likely not work. The Rapco rattle cans are much better. It is also a xylene base.
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Post by zooke581 on Nov 15, 2015 15:28:11 GMT -5
What I found out with the cans is that my finger would over hang the spray button causing the clog. If I watched this closely I had no more problems and the can was good for several uses. I really only had one bad can. Just my experience.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 15:44:46 GMT -5
I painted mine with Ron's paint and it is very easy to work with. It, along with any other xylene based paint I've worked with has very little tolerance to gasoline exposure so if you spill a little gas out of you fuel filler, wipe it off immediately..... Better yet, dab it off more than wiping. You will see the paint come off on the rag if you wipe too much. The gallon cans are easy to spray and clean up but the thing I don't care for with Ron's paint are the rattle cans. The tips clog immediately and I can't seem to clean them up even with a solvent. If you start to use a rattle can, I'd recommend using the whole can. If you let the can sit for even a day, the next day it will likely not work. The Rapco rattle cans are much better. It is also a xylene base. I have not used Rons paint, "BUT", I have had the exact same problems with the Gillespie rattle cans, seems one needs to spend 20 min. Shaking the can to be sure it's thoroughly mixed, I believe the paint settles out in the bottom of the can and that's what plugs the nozzles..... Since shaking the he!! Out of th cans I have not had a problem. In all reality Zylene reduced paint is cheap and has a fairly short life if your rig sits in the sun, it works for me, if it were a top notch restoration I would most likely use a 2part paint like TM-9, but I like the $40 a gallon price of Gillespie verses the $100+ a gallon TM-9. Not a gambler but most likely Rons paint and Gilespie come from the same place, who would tool up for a limited sale product ?. |
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Post by Haines Garage on Nov 15, 2015 17:00:45 GMT -5
Not for nuthin guys but have you ever read the instructions on a rattle can?
Most of them say, after use turn the can upside down and spray until clear propellant comes out.
Usually takes about 2-3 seconds.
And you thought I was a dumb ass
Second. The Fitz Paint comes from Rhodda. Gillespie is GCI coatings. It is not the same.
I have a project that may come my way soon. I will definitely be using the RFJP. It's not that I dislike Gillespie, I like their products. I just like Ron Fitzpatrick. He has always done me right on what I have purchased from him. An so far has a great attitude. Even when I am a pain in the arse, which rarely is the case.....
That's why I made the video .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 17:17:10 GMT -5
I like Ron and I buy from him often but I'm telling you, in the three times I've bought rattle cans from him, I have had issues as described and I'm sure I shook them enough, switch nozzles, soaked them in xylene, turned the can upside down after using, you name it. The Rapco rattle cans behave like any normal rattle can. They work until they are empty. Both are xylene based.
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Post by jeffwho on Nov 15, 2015 17:25:23 GMT -5
MY jeep is 33070, ammo cans 23070 I think ... maybe 34087 for a toolbox. I made a pallete of the four colours I bought when I was working on PaT Waters' jeep ... but after typing this I realize that wasn't even the question. LOL, I don' tknow JACK about paint, Moosey painted Dopey and the Goat Coach as you know, and hopefully will have enough leftover for Weeesie.
HEY! Speaking of thread drift, we had a good time at Hanahan's Fall Festival yesterday. Some of you may have seen pictures on Faceypage.
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Post by Haines Garage on Nov 15, 2015 18:13:44 GMT -5
I like Ron and I buy from him often but I'm telling you, in the three times I've bought rattle cans from him, I have had issues as described and I'm sure I shook them enough, switch nozzles, soaked them in xylene, turned the can upside down after using, you name it. The Rapco rattle cans behave like any normal rattle can. They work until they are empty. Both are xylene based. I believe you ! I had that problem with my $35.00 a can spray cans of weld through primer. I was Pissed! Try this, take a finish nail and a hammer, pull the cap off the stuck can. Take the nail, and gently tap it through the round opening where the nozzle attaches. Then gently pull the nail out with pliers. Make sure you are looking directly at the top of the can. And be sure to have film rolling!!! I want to see that!! Hahahahaha ! I'm only kidding Jeff. Interesting about those cans . I will be sharing something shortly on this thread that really will get the discussion lively! |
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Post by Haines Garage on Nov 15, 2015 18:56:07 GMT -5
Here We Go!!! Stirring Up The Pot!!! Just Doing What I Do Best! Now.... We all know on this forum why I am restoring a Willys. My Grandfather was in the US Army European Theater 1944-45. All the WWII Articles I collect, I prefer to be marked 44-45. So when I started my CJ2A tribute jeep for Grandpa, I searched out what 44-45 paint would have been. I bought Army Jeep Parts Late WWII Gillespie Paint. You know the researched copied from NOS parts of that era. The Moosester told me, after he called me dirty names, and racial slurs, that there was NO Semi Gloss in WWII!!! So I made some samples because the Captain wanted me to deface my Awesome work space. On Red Oxide Primer..  The RFJP color is correct for Korea And Vietnam as stated. There is no argument even necessary. Let's talk about my color choice. I have bought Gallons Of It! And spray cans by the dozens. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 19:13:19 GMT -5
The Moosester told me, after he called me dirty names, and racial slurs, that there was NO Semi Gloss in WWII!!! ...I'm sure semi gloss was used somewhere and on something....but not on a jeep tub out of the factory! |
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Post by Haines Garage on Nov 15, 2015 19:19:03 GMT -5
Here's the listing for late war.  |
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