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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 18:51:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 21:35:45 GMT -5
225 lbs. that leaves 275 lbs to spare. Now I have had two people in my 416 several times with no issues, I guess the 25HP Merc must be 100 lbs. My uncle and myself in his MBT was a little hairier and he had a 3 hp Johnson ( that's an outboard motor Moose55, not a private part). Again great fun!  Lee  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 12:36:07 GMT -5
Just for Scott, as long as yall don't make fun of my video skills, lol.  |
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Post by Haines Garage on Jul 18, 2014 12:42:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 12:45:14 GMT -5
That is flat out impressive. I think you ought to just go the route of the trailer like Lee mentioned! Surely you can pick up an M416 on the cheap down there. It would be multi-purposed!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 12:54:40 GMT -5
That reminds me of 1960 in Northern MN. when I went fishing with my Dad. Same sound. It never changes in your mind. Some had a top rope pull. I think I can remember the two stroke exhaust smell associated with the noise. Even the gas floating in the bilge of the row boat. Those were the days! John
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 14:23:31 GMT -5
Thanks everyone!
It uses a 16:1 mix ratio, so the smoke is thick.. The throttle control is on the end of the tiller handle, the lever you see me moving in the video is the spark advance. Its kind of trail and error until you find the sweet spot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 21:21:26 GMT -5
Heres another boat find this week.....  A Ginny-Wine JC Higgins minner buckit ( minnow bucket for you Yankees, lol) |
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Post by Haines Garage on Jul 24, 2014 21:23:41 GMT -5
Heres another boat find this week..... A Ginny-Wine JC Higgins minner buckit ( minnow bucket for you Yankees, lol) Sweet ! I have seen a few of those ! Goin ' Fishing ' |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 13:56:07 GMT -5
they used to use 16:1 because there was no 2 stroke oil so they used 30w car oil in it and burned it high like that. its a practice that has been abandon now as we have better 2 stroke oils.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 17:24:27 GMT -5
Howdy Luke!
Some people say to use non detergent 30 to mix with the gas...just like some people still say you have to use nondetergent 30 wt in our Willises....
I'm was using a standard TCW-3 outboard oil, do you have a different ratio in mind? Although, at 16:1, skeeters ain't a big problem, lol!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 17:54:54 GMT -5
you could run it leaner. i will confirm with my boss but I'm pretty sure 32:1 is fine for them or 40:1. 50 might be pushing it. i would definitely use modern two stroke oil though not 30w car oil.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 18:34:18 GMT -5
you could run it leaner. i will confirm with my boss but I'm pretty sure 32:1 is fine for them or 40:1. 50 might be pushing it. i would definitely use modern two stroke oil though not 30w car oil. Okie dokie, I wouldn't use car oil ether, two cycle oil was invented for a reason.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 18:53:34 GMT -5
50-1 in everything I own. no exceptions and never an Issue. I was told by a legendary engineer at Arctic Cat back in my racing days that anything more is a waist of oil. Lee  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 9:56:19 GMT -5
Got to talk to the goruh on this one. As that may still have babbit in it this needs a higher mix. I wouldn't do 50:1 in it we are debating 32:1 here today.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 22:19:50 GMT -5
24:1 final answer
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 4:33:04 GMT -5
Cool! Thank you, Sir Luke!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 22:25:44 GMT -5
Since I happen to be the poor scrounger type with a love of "repurposing " stuff, sometimes to the dismay of the lovely bride.... I decided to repurpose some plywood I had lying around, along with some new sheets that just happen to come home with me from the box store,(when she wasn't looking) to do as was suggested by Sir Schiller.... TO BUILD A BOAT! ( and Moose wanted to see!) The plans came from a on-line vendor awhile back. I would post the name, but don't want to get into a legal pickle, if there is any chance of that. It usually is the first hit in a search. Most of the plywood is 1/4" B/C exterior rated. The boat is 11' 6" long, 36" wide at the bottom, and 52" at the widest point. It will interesting to see if I can carry it on the top of the Willys! (Not talking any serious off camber stuff). Funny thing is, when I bought the jeep, it had provisions for carrying a canoe or jon boat on top. The first thing I did was cut it all off. (It was kind of a bubba job). Judging by all the sand that was in it, and where I bought it, I think it spent a lot of its life in the Red River bottoms, probably catfishin'. Anyways, this is prepping the side pieces for joining, by beveling the plywood in a 8:1 ratio, a 1/4" sheet = 2" bevel.  Glueing the beveled pieces together using Titebond #3 glue  Cutting the side boards to shape using a jig saw..  This the start of assembly. The seats are made of 1/4" plywood, the transom and bow are cut from 3/4" exterior grade ply. In the picture I just attached the rub rails.  'Nuther view  I still need to add some support to the seats for my 225 pound Irish lard butt, join the bottom sheets, fiberglass the seats and seams per insructions before attaching the bottom, then after the bottom sheets are on, they get fiberglassed too. Never worked with fiberglass before, should be interesting!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 6:50:38 GMT -5
Gary, you just get right out there and do it! Fiberglass resin is tricky, too much hardener and you can't get it on before it sets,too little and it stays wet or gummy. Putting that flat bottomed boat on top of your jeep will be a chore as it's going to be heavy. I think you need a Jeep trailer now. An old Minnesota fishing trailer. Your work looks very good! Are you going to paint it to match the Jeep? Find a old skeet gun and go duck hunting. Ka Boom! John |
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Post by Haines Garage on Aug 3, 2014 7:47:35 GMT -5
Holy Smokes!!!
You actually are doing it !!!
That is just Awesome!!
It looks Fantastic!!!!
Where's my Thumbs up!!!!
Hold on !!
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Post by Haines Garage on Aug 3, 2014 7:49:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 12:51:56 GMT -5
Gary, you just get right out there and do it! Fiberglass resin is tricky, too much hardener and you can't get it on before it sets,too little and it stays wet or gummy. Putting that flat bottomed boat on top of your jeep will be a chore as it's going to be heavy. I think you need a Jeep trailer now. An old Minnesota fishing trailer. Your work looks very good! Are you going to paint it to match the Jeep? Find a old skeet gun and go duck hunting. Ka Boom! John Thanks for the compliments and thumbs up! John and Scott! Sir John, you maybe on to something.... Maybe I can figure out a way to carry it on top of the little homemade jeep trailer,  Pic is a couple years old.... spare is still mounted on the side, I won't make that mistake again. Same color as the jeep? Great minds think alike!! |
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Post by Haines Garage on Aug 3, 2014 18:23:12 GMT -5
Sir Gary
Rig looks great !
Love that trailer .
Saw a motor today at the antique shop today , that did not even come close to the shape of yours for $350.00
It also specific hall said will not run .
So you have something special there !
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Post by rudycon on Aug 4, 2014 16:26:57 GMT -5
Probably freshman year of college, I came home for a break and my good friend Steve decided we needed to build a boat to navigate the mighty and tortuous DuPage River.
Flat bottom design with hard chines and her rather snub nosed bow was well matched to the vertical transom. Built of the finest scraps of plywood and 2x4s we could find abandoned in fields and our parent's garages. "We Support our Troops" painted on the sides of the unlicensed craft to give us an edge if anyone mistook our floating doublewide coffin for a "boat" and wanted to see our registration. Construction was rapid and of the "agile" design philosophy. (read that "no plans") Assembly involved 10 pounds of nails and 2 enthusiastic shipwrights full of ideas but empty of skill.
S.S. SLOTH was emblazoned in left-over paint from my artistic sister's stockpile and a couple of seat cushion flotation devices were added because the coast guard requires them. Aye she was a marvel of compromised design, limited budget and hasty construction.
Early the next morning, before anyone would care, we loaded 'er into Steve's 1977 Ford Club Wagon Chateux and plopped her in the river at a forest preserve we knew well from other adventures. Water began to spurt immediately from any number of leaking seams. I started swearing. Steve watched it for a minute; jumped down into the boat and said, "Well are you coming or not?" I contemplated the shrinking freeboard but what the heck. We were FLOATING!
All-in-all a very successful maiden and final voyage all rolled into one. Rain, snow, gray skies, ah the Witch of November came early...No wait that was the Edmund Fitzgerald...Anyway, at one point we approached a flood control dam. I decided there was no way we were going to heft that waterlogged pile of scrap over the fence at the dam, so with me at the helm, I decided to take us through the dam. "Steve. Which tube looks the best?" Steve was already moving aft as he stated, "None of them! GO BACK! "I feigned loss of control, but the increasing current quickly made that a reality. Steve ran aft and we stood holding each other upright (guys don't hug) screaming while we shot the tubes. We became mostly swamped by the whitewater, then emerged and wrecked on the rocks below the dam. Steve was dauntless and quickly took charge of the repairs. We hammered patches over the holes, bailed out the water and continued our voyage. A couple of cold wet hours later, we learned that Liquid Nails is NOT WATERPROOF. All the seams were working pretty good and bailing was a near constant chore to keep the bilge levels down to a manageable "less than boot deep" level, but we floated on down the river.
"Favorable wind aft Cap'n."
"Aye. Step the mast and unfurl the main sheet." I know what you are thinking, but that's an accurate play on words there as our "main sheet" was not a line, but a bedsheet with "skate and destroy" spray painted on it flown gamely from a square rig of 2x2s and parachute cord.
Cheese filled hotdogs and Pepsi filled in for hardtack and a trashcan lid made onboard fire a poor choice for a small wooden craft with 2 cold pyromaniacs.
Eventually, we were well downstream of Steve's house and it was getting dark. All accessory devices once attached to the hull had long become floatsom and jetsom through damage from rocks/logs and an effort to increase freeboard as we sunk lower into the muddy river despite the bailing. The courageous S.S. SLOTH was foundering. We had a long walk/hitchhike home ahead of us. We tied up the SS Sloth with a tiny painter to a bush next to a muddy cornfield. This way, it would wash away in the next flood so some other kids downstream could find and use it; we gathered up things we cared about (the hammer, trashcan lid, and seat cushions) and started the walk to Steve's house.
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Post by Haines Garage on Aug 4, 2014 17:27:16 GMT -5
Sir Rudy ,
Great Story.
That's what I love about this website !
The tales of Jeep guys !
And man there A plenty!!
Skate and destroy indeed!
I had a Christian Hasio hammer head with Independant trucks and rat bone wheel !
Here we go a drifting again !!!
It is a thread about boats!!!
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