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Post by jeffwho on May 6, 2016 16:24:40 GMT -5
I'm already working in the garage and I don't want to forget to ask. I'm sure tons of stuff will come up this weekend so I'll get distracted and forget...
To remove the studs in this block, what tools aside from professional grade auto shop sorts might I need to assemble to remove them, and since I've already chewed one up badly, should I concern myself with the integrity of them when/if I get them out?
Can I just play dumb ("and the Oscar goes to") and take it to the local machine shop with five in the top, all the exhaust manifold studs and 6 in the front?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 16:49:48 GMT -5
If you're goin to the machinist anyway why not let him pull em. He's got the tools and experience. Then replace them all. My 2C..
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 18:18:00 GMT -5
If you're goin to the machinist anyway why not let him pull em. He's got the tools and experience. Then replace them all. My 2C.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 18:25:12 GMT -5
X 3 from Oilly.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 20:19:06 GMT -5
There you go. Now you need to find something else to occupy your time with this weekend.  |
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Post by athawk11 on May 6, 2016 21:46:03 GMT -5
I just double nutted them and walked them right out.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 22:02:57 GMT -5
I just double nutted them and walked them right out. Hawk. So did I but I'm not sure Jeffy's gotta pair,,  |
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Post by athawk11 on May 6, 2016 22:27:48 GMT -5
Rick...Laughed Out Loud!!!!
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Post by jeffwho on May 7, 2016 6:25:03 GMT -5
Well played. That's the expert shade-tree, man's-man real mechanic stuff this rube just doesn't know.
I'll give my nuts a doubling up and see if I can rub em out..... /OOOH ER
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Post by jeffwho on May 7, 2016 16:50:31 GMT -5
That's dunnit, thanks for the ... Tip
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Post by jeffwho on May 8, 2016 16:14:28 GMT -5
Got all but one manifold stud out, sheared off the last one. I surrender. I packed up the block and a pile of parts destined for the machine shop. Hope I can communicate my need - if I didn't know double-nutting I am out of my league here for sure..
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 20:50:43 GMT -5
Jeff.. (in my most grandfatherly tone).. If you go into anything expecting to fail you surely will. If you go into it expecting to kick it's ASS you will, you may get a black eye doing so but you will KICK IT'S ASS. Confidence Man.. Confidence! Give me an address-i'll send you something-something of lore-you'll see.. Attachments:
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Post by athawk11 on May 8, 2016 21:12:42 GMT -5
I would add...
I have found that my failures (there have been plenty) have always turned out to be the best learning moments. This has been true in every endeavor I take on. It's a more painful journey, but when you finally succeed, the victory so much sweeter.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 21:25:35 GMT -5
I would add... I have found that my failures (there have been plenty) have always turned out to be the best learning moments. This has been true in every endeavor I take on. It's a more painful journey, but when you finally succeed, the victory so much sweeter. Hawk Well said! |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 22:24:49 GMT -5
Got all but one manifold stud out, sheared off the last one. I surrender. I packed up the block and a pile of parts destined for the machine shop. Hope I can communicate my need - if I didn't know double-nutting I am out of my league here for sure.. Hell! There ain't one of us alive born knowin' this stuff.... How does a man learn? By doing, messing up and asking questions! Your a pretty danm smart feller, just keep up doing what your doing and you'll get there! Trust me! I feel the same way around most computer operating systems and golf ball hittin' sticks..... In addition.....if you been hanging around Schiller, your not only a smart feller, your a fart smeller too! |
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Post by Haines Garage on May 9, 2016 6:38:23 GMT -5
Most folks wouldn't even attempt to do what you are.
That's a fact.
All great advice that the Knights have been giving you .
If you only broke one stud you are doing great.
It's not that hard to drill that out.
You have to have some good bits, and the proper size tap.
You will need to proper size tap to chase all of your threads on the block as well.
They make easy outs, I personally have not had the best of luck with those.
Some guys swear by them.
Your doing great.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 6:56:36 GMT -5
Look on the bright side. All this learning will enable you to zip through another Jeep. Your wife will be proud of you!  |
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Post by jeffwho on May 10, 2016 6:58:49 GMT -5
Thanks guys for your encouraging words - being Murphy's posterchild really grates my ghoulies sometimes, so I throw tools, settle in for some selfexcoriation and mutter colourful streams of some entertaining non-niceties for awhile then come back to reality. I don't want someone to do this for me. I bet some jeep owners only drive their jeep and don't know jack about how it works or how to fix anything. Oh wait, that's me! FOR NOW. This is a learning experience for sure - I managed to remove 10 of the 11 studs still installed before shearing that one on the exhaust. As a famous goatshed poet of our time mentioned to me that I will pay more to have them remove that one busted stud than remove them all. Next time, maybe I will try an easy-out, or grow a brain and buy a torch or use more PB or was it Hawky mentioned using butter? The fact that I haven't rolled this bitch off a cliff into a roaring bonfire means I haven't given up. My original desire to own one of these cussed beasts which keeps me coming back. I wish I could say "focused", but I can hear Moose choking on his froofy latte at that idea! Focus is a skill I lack. Knowing is half the battle.
I'm waiting for the machine shop to open this morning, will plan to drop the block and all these bits off today for the final determination as to whether any of it is any good for rebuilding. I inspected all the parts and hucked em all into my second consecutive hand-me-down "Vuck". Aside from the obvious issues with the block, I noticed some severe cracks in the flywheel, the cam shaft still has the fibre gear hub since it broke apart while I was trying to remove it, and the crank, rods etc that I was advised to take. I'm sure to be the entertainment of the week at Simmons when I show up and say "Yeah I have a motor and some parts I need ... um ... something done to it". Kidding, Herr Haines has loaded up the teleprompter and I hope to get mostly out the door before they bust out laughing. Despite my not finding mention of a "camspark duofluctor" in the manual, HG told me to make sure and ask them to "shine it up real good", so I'm sticking to the script.
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Post by jeffwho on May 10, 2016 11:20:26 GMT -5
Dropped off my engine bits. Mike at the shop chuckled when I called them that, and of course recognised it was a jeep block immediately. I am SURE he was impressed as I named each part as I pulled them out of Moby and checked em off the list, tagged em and shagged em. He said at initial glance that the crank and bearings look OK, there wasn't a significant reason to be concerned about the cracks in the flywheel (they'd grind it a bit to make sure), and he didn't seem alarmed at the cracks I pointed out in the block. As I was describing what had happened up to now, he seemed puzzled as to why it was in that many pieces: if I recall correctly he marveled "You blew a head gasket and wound up with THIS?!", sweeping his arm over the pile of parts on the bench. As easy as that would be to believe, considering the source, I explained further what we'd found after the head replacement. He chuckled as I struggled to make sense of what followed, how it eventually progressed to the point of my not being able to turn the hand crank even, and what I suspected the cause to be. I'm not sure he'd heard some of those terms, like "thingie" or "wheelie gear" but assured me that he knew what I meant. I'm sure it will take a couple days for them to get back to me on whether it can be sleeved to 020 or 040, or I have me a very nice paperweight.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 11:48:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:46:40 GMT -5
Depending on how long the shop has been in business, they see this stuff all day long, every day. They know where to look first and then report back. On some of my Jeep engines, I didn't even get in the door. First words were-----"cracked". That was my beautiful 200.00 engine. I ate most of it. Welcome to the brawl. Oilly
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 23:29:52 GMT -5
 I kinda figured that moose guy for one of them froofy latte drinkers. Always talking about playing with his balls. Sounds like you've got it figured out. You'll enjoy the Willys when it's finished.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 6:25:50 GMT -5
I kinda figured that moose guy for one of them froofy latte drinkers. Always talking about playing with his balls. Sounds like you've got it figured out. You'll enjoy the Willys when it's finished. It's no secret. I'm out of the closet...I love my coffee cousin lattes. If anyone cares, I prefer Bigby over Starbucks. However if a Starbucks Carmel Macchiotto is in the mix, it'd be hard to turn that down. And the golf...don't get me started! I'm reading a book right now called The Story of American Golf, V1. Shall we grab some lattes and discuss? |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 18:15:24 GMT -5
I'm finishing up a book called " Fighting Hitlers Jets", it's ok, but wayyyy better than any golf book!.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 18:37:12 GMT -5
I'm finishing up a book called " Fighting Hitlers Jets", it's ok, but wayyyy better than any golf book!. Ahhh...I beg to differ. Allow me to wet your appetite... Tommy Armour...born in Scotland...drove a tank in WW1. Wounded and lost his sight in one eye. Immigrated to America after the war. Became a successful professional, won major championships and taught and played golf happily ever after. What's not to like?? |
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I kinda figured that moose guy for one of them froofy latte drinkers. Always talking about playing with his balls. Sounds like you've got it figured out. You'll enjoy the Willys when it's finished.