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Post by JoelGosnell on Jan 3, 2016 9:23:03 GMT -5
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Post by surveypunk on Jan 3, 2016 9:56:52 GMT -5
I see no real advantage for our application, the Jeep world. Heavy equipment, maybe yes.
Periodic greasing of our machines gives one a chance to look things over, find and fix broken, or about broken, stuff and general going over.
I don't think relying on some wonder lube is a fair trade for a good periodic physical inspection. Will it work? Probably be fine. Is it worth it? Try it and let us know.
Welcome, Joel,
Jimbo
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 11:30:43 GMT -5
Hey Joel. You may want to read this regarding synthetics vs petroleum lubricants -
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 14:54:43 GMT -5
Howdy Joel! Great to see you back and pulling up a chair!
Okie dokie......
Here's my thoughts and lowly opinion. I'm a firm believer in using a good lubricant but I've never had the opportunity to use a synthetic grease on my junk.... mostly because I never buy any, lol! I just use a good name brand grease and just keep 'er greased regular. Especially, after a lot of dust.... And I tell you why....
I can see the advantages to a synthetic grease in a modern automobile or industry applications with higher speed sealed bearings and tightly fitted tie rod boots,ball joints and such that doesn't need to be greased often to stay clean. Because of better sealing and designed-in long maintance intervals. (I wish I had a dollar for every "sealed" industrial bearing that was ruined by "over greasing". Somebody would blow the seal out with twenty shots from a grease gun and the grease would no longer stay clean or put......)
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on an old jeep, truck, tractor, etc, the lubrication points are barely covered (tie rod ends) or not covered at all (shackles, spring pivot points, pedals, etc) and have no way to prevent the intrusion of dust, grit, and water. According to the AmsOil presentation, synthetic grease would be better at water resistance......but...... Here's the caveat......any grease is sticky by nature, or it wouldn't be able to do its job. That stickiness is also its downfall, anytime enough dirt or grit is combined with grease, the grease becomes a "lapping compound" and actually starts to accelerate wear. There's only one way to prevent this.....purge out the dirt with fresh grease... An old tractor mechanic said one time, if your just going to grease it once or twice and forget about....don't grease at all. It'll last longer.....but if you grease regular, it'll outlast you! That, is why I believe the engineers, had in mind such short maintance intervals and frequent lubrication back then, as the best way of preventing wear.
Like Survey said, there's nothing that can replace regular maintenance....... Will it work, sure! Is it worth the additional cost, not to me or my situation...
But, if you want to, try'er and find out! What works for you, may not work for somebody else or vice versa! Report back.... We're curious!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 15:49:46 GMT -5
Welcome to the Forum Joel. But don't take some of the jocularity too serious, it's just a way of life here to break up the boredom of seriousness! Chuck  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 16:05:47 GMT -5
Welcome to the Forum Joel. But don't take some of the jocularity too serious, it's just a way of life here to break up the boredom of seriousness! Chuck Yeah! What "the five-dollar-word-using-Canada-man" said!  |
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Post by JoelGosnell on Jan 3, 2016 17:01:25 GMT -5
Thanks guys, Ill keep you posted.
After reading all the replies and reading tons of information on the internet Im not sure what Ill use. For sure it will be either John Deere Corn Head grease or the Red Line Oil 80402 CV-2 Synthetic Grease. Im not planning on driving it much when I get all back together.
Again Thank you all that replied.
Regards
Joel
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 19:07:28 GMT -5
No issues with synthetic grease, as long as your using it for NOT extending grease application. The Professor is as always spot on!.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 19:46:10 GMT -5
No issues with synthetic grease, as long as your using it for NOT extending grease application. That's what she said!!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 21:25:15 GMT -5
No issues with synthetic grease, as long as your using it for NOT extending grease application. That's what she said!!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 21:42:19 GMT -5
Thanks guys, Ill keep you posted. After reading all the replies and reading tons of information on the internet Im not sure what Ill use. For sure it will be either John Deere Corn Head grease or the Red Line Oil 80402 CV-2 Synthetic Grease. Im not planning on driving it much when I get all back together. Again Thank you all that replied. Regards Joel IMHO, I wouldn't use anything lighter than a NGLI #2 grease for chassis lubrication, ie springs, shackles, etc. Anything lighter will be a constant,dripping mess. The JD corn head grease is a Number 0, I believe. A pour-able grease, similar to the viscosity of CV joint lube. Its real popular for steering knuckles and steering boxes and such that originally call for oil but seep alot, because its thin enough to flow around to all the bearing surfaces, but thick enough not to leak. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 21:45:27 GMT -5
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Post by rudycon on Jan 4, 2016 15:59:35 GMT -5
I really like the mobile 1 #2 red synthetic grease. I have tried valvoline synthetic #2 grease too, but I was not as impressed. in a driveshaft slipyoke, I noticed that valvoline synthetic grease packed in the bottom and all of the oil squeezed out of the soap base leaving a nearly dry, rock hard black chunk in the bottom of the slip yoke. The soap base of the mobile1 doesn't seem to do this and it stays gooey down in the bottom of the slip yoke.
I have run my own comparison study using mobile1 as a wheel bearing grease in place of penzoil wheel bearing grease in the front hubs of a 4runner with 37" (heavy) tires and 30,000 miles of on and off pavement use. Submerged some of the time.
My conclusion is that the wear was equal. As long as you keep the grease clean and fresh, today's stuff is all pretty good.
Mobile1 also seems to stick around better than conventional grease when running in water. It seems to resist turning into emulsified goo.
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