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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 7:51:51 GMT -5
Hoowee. Working on the '69 CJ5 Ross Steering box. 1. The steering gear arm won't come off. Book says to remove in vehicle. HAH! Fat F-ing chance! 2. Decided to check to be sure nut would thread on new sector shaft. You guessed it. It won't. Omix replacement that, according to the labels was made in either Spain or Taiwan? Says 7/8" verified thread as 18TPI but nut won't go past first thread. Spent last hour looking for another. No joy. Suggestions?
Addendum. Nut that came off old shaft is bronze. Make a difference?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 19:25:27 GMT -5
Well, the worm shaft from Omix Ada for a M38 is so bad, not one thing about it is right. I have a 100.00 pry bar now. I'd send the sector back and source a NOS one. It possibly might use the same larger shaft the later M38's used--------15/16? Oil
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 21:43:26 GMT -5
All I can add is the material the nut is made of will not matter, if the threads are of the same pitch.
Lee
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 3:39:40 GMT -5
After careful measurements my only conclusion is that the pitch of the threads is different. Options are available.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 5:49:28 GMT -5
So, did you pull the column and rebuild the box, or what was wrong in the first place? Those pitman arms next to the engine block leave no room for a puller. On a old Jeep pickup, they are through the frame on the outside. The DPO tried using a hammer to get it off and broke the cover to the case by smashing the sector against it. Oilly
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 10:36:29 GMT -5
It appears to be only half-way on. I have a hydraulic splitter holding pressure at the bottom and a pickle fork holding pressure from the top. Nut is on the end so that when the PBB finally works it's way in far enough the arm won't hurt anything when it pops. When it finally lets go, I'll probably be working on a throttle shaft and will jump and ruin it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 22:32:01 GMT -5
I don't have much to contribute to this thread, except, of course, what Captain Obvious sees... ...the name of this thread should be edited to: "It won't fit - that's what she said!"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 22:39:34 GMT -5
I don't have much to contribute to this thread, except, of course, what Captain Obvious sees... ...the name of this thread should be edited to: "It won't fit - that's what she said!" Bo, your dreaming again!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 7:32:04 GMT -5
Gary...I had a bet with myself. I knew you would probably be the ONLY one to acknowledge my childish behavior!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 9:05:40 GMT -5
Gary...I had a bet with myself. I knew you would probably be the ONLY one to acknowledge my childish behavior! I am quite sure it crossed most minds here
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 11:42:46 GMT -5
"FREEZE-OFF"! Good stuff. With pressure applied, I heated the arm again. Let it cool a few minutes and, according to label directions, gave it a 15-20 second stream of the stuff. Gave the pickle fork a whack and POP!. Let the steering box rebuild commence!
And. As I suspected. The splines are not straight on the shaft. Something got hit really hard.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 20:35:22 GMT -5
Hey Scoutpilot
How did the rebuild go?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 4:00:04 GMT -5
Well, thanks for asking. Let me tell you. The rebuild proceeded quite smoothly after that. I was able to finish it in good time. I had other things to do so I just parked the “5” and moved on. The other day, the Ferd’s Starter Solenoid decided to weld itself together internally. I had places to go, things to do and people to meet, including an appointment. I was all too happy to pull the cover off the “5” and happily venture forth on a number of errands. Even with the big tires, it had the manners of a well trained pony. Easy gait with little to no play in the steering wheel. It held a true course despite the bumps in the road. No wobble at all. I thoroughly enjoyed the time behind the wheel. I even went to NAPA and picked up a new solenoid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 13:32:03 GMT -5
Having had a Saginaw swap but now back to stock some 15 years later, and with the decline in quality parts..I know a good job is harder to do. Glad it worked out Good ol 5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 15:46:51 GMT -5
Time, patience, decent parts, MAPP gas , “Freeze-Off” and a 20-ton press all came together to make it happen
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