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'52 M38
Nov 30, 2014 19:34:02 GMT -5
Post by Haines Garage on Nov 30, 2014 19:34:02 GMT -5
Those parts look great in that Paint Booth!
If I missed it , I apologize, but what is the paint color you are using?
Looks Reeaaallll Good!
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'52 M38
Nov 30, 2014 21:26:46 GMT -5
Post by zooke581 on Nov 30, 2014 21:26:46 GMT -5
So...how did you like those big honkin tires in the snow? It looked awesome!
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'52 M38
Nov 30, 2014 21:44:12 GMT -5
Post by Ryan_M on Nov 30, 2014 21:44:12 GMT -5
HG - I had the guys at the local NCS use their high-tech gadget to color match the paint on an NOS M38 grille I have. I'm still not convinced it's anywhere near an accurate match but I like the color anyways. I know you can get correct paint online but I really needed the application advice of the guys at the local shop so I wanted to buy it from them. They gave me a couple samples to try first and said they would adjust as needed but I just went with the first effort. It's a good color regardless. And Zooke - Tires were a lot of fun. Glad I got that out of my system  |
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'52 M38
Nov 30, 2014 21:56:07 GMT -5
Post by Ryan_M on Nov 30, 2014 21:56:07 GMT -5
Man I love it when we use "her" stuff. Bake parts in the oven. I roasted some parts for another project in the oven last week  |
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'52 M38
Nov 30, 2014 21:56:20 GMT -5
Post by zooke581 on Nov 30, 2014 21:56:20 GMT -5
I'll be getting some M38 marker lights in soon. You get first crack if you need them. That is if they check out okay. Interested?
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'52 M38
Nov 30, 2014 21:58:45 GMT -5
Post by zooke581 on Nov 30, 2014 21:58:45 GMT -5
And Zooke - Tires were a lot of fun. Glad I got that out of my system They actually looked real good on the jeep. I'll bet snow went everywhere! |
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'52 M38
Nov 30, 2014 22:01:16 GMT -5
Post by Ryan_M on Nov 30, 2014 22:01:16 GMT -5
I'll be getting some M38 marker lights in soon. You get first crack if you need them. That is if they check out okay. Interested? I have a set but I have no idea if they are any good. I haven't taken a close look at them yet but I'll try and find some time this week to check them out. This 4 day weekend blew by WAY too quickly. If mine are junk I would be very interested in yours, along with any other M38 treasures you may stumble across. |
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'52 M38
Nov 30, 2014 22:08:41 GMT -5
Post by zooke581 on Nov 30, 2014 22:08:41 GMT -5
I'll keep you in mind first on M38 stuff then.
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'52 M38
Dec 1, 2014 21:37:38 GMT -5
Post by Haines Garage on Dec 1, 2014 21:37:38 GMT -5
Sir Ryan,
Color looks great in the photos, that's why I asked.
I am using the Gillespie late WW2 semi gloss.
Grabbing a chip to match the original, that is Genius!!
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'52 M38
Dec 4, 2014 22:19:30 GMT -5
Post by Ryan_M on Dec 4, 2014 22:19:30 GMT -5
I have a vehicle again! Or at least something that I no longer have to drag around the garage but can actually roll. I had to enlarge the front spring hanger bracket holes to accommodate the newer repop spring pivot bolts but after I went through hell and back on this last time I knew what I had to do. Quick and painless this time around. I scratched the new paint in several places wrestling the axles into place as I knew would be inevitable. I'm also alarmed at the 4 or 5 spots I can still see primer through the paint (in addition to the spring u-bolts which I pretty much gave up on after I realized touch-ups were going to be in order anyways). The paint shop guy was pretty adamant that the type of paint I am using is "1 coat only!!....Work your area and move on!" so that's what I tried to do. It's tougher than it looks trying to cover everything evenly in one shot as opposed to 3 or 4 light coats. I think once I get to a certain point with this chassis I'll go around and hit the weak spots with a quick blast of fresh paint. Don't tell my paint guy.   |
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'52 M38
Dec 4, 2014 23:06:45 GMT -5
Post by zooke581 on Dec 4, 2014 23:06:45 GMT -5
Looking good. The paint is the reason I when with Ron Fitzpatricks on the G503. He has spray cans that match the gallon paint and it's easy to touch up. And...I wanted mine to have that worn look. Like this last snow I slide into a fence and scratched the side. Gonna get some paint and just touch it up.
My front hangers went on fine. I got them from Debella. Where did you get yours?
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'52 M38
Dec 4, 2014 23:10:53 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Haines Garage on Dec 4, 2014 23:10:53 GMT -5
Looking great!
A Man On A Mission !
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'52 M38
Dec 4, 2014 23:12:29 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Haines Garage on Dec 4, 2014 23:12:29 GMT -5
And I won't tell your "Paint Guy"
Promise
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Post by Ryan_M on Dec 5, 2014 6:03:25 GMT -5
My front hangers went on fine. I got them from Debella. Where did you get yours? Not sure how yours is set up but my 3A has 9/16" greasable pivot bolts. M38's have simply a 7/16" bolt - no grease fitting. I had found that leaf springs are commonly advertised to fit both the 3A and M38 - but since they are different that can't be possible. I went round and round trying to figure out how to swap bushings etc and just couldn't make it work. I ended up using a step bit to expand the original hole in frame mounted hanger from 7/16" to 9/16" so it would accept the larger greasable pivot bolts. This is from an M38 manual:  The issue was also kicked around here a bit: hainesgarage.proboards.com/thread/552?page=1 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 6:51:53 GMT -5
You've been a busy Beaver there Ryan. Those tires and wheels help, but no tie rods make it a pain. You need a 1 x 1 with holes and a bolt. Oil
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Post by Ryan_M on Dec 5, 2014 7:05:23 GMT -5
You need a 1 x 1 with holes and a bolt. Oil Or better yet, I could try and get the tie rods painted and installed this weekend! Good idea though, that 1 x 1 trick. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 7:26:05 GMT -5
I just caught myself up with the last 8 crazy nights of fun you've been having up there. My favorite part was the quote about a simple task taking about as long as it takes to drink a cup of coffee, followed by "well, I'm in this far. I might as well..." I think we have all muttered those sentiments.
Project looks great. I love your narrative. It's about as funny as HG looks on camera!
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'52 M38
Dec 14, 2014 19:28:52 GMT -5
Post by Ryan_M on Dec 14, 2014 19:28:52 GMT -5
Drivetrain painted and installed today. Prior to paint, I did pull the motor and bellhousing apart to inspect the clutch and pilot bushing - all good. I also corrected an earlier mistake of using 3/8-16 bolts to connect the tranny to the bellhousing - BAD BAD! I did this with my 3A and after 6k miles they almost fell out on their own. They seem like they fit but they really do not. Replaced with correct 7/16-14 bolts. This was a 75% paint prep effort at best. It looks better in the pics than it really is. A quick degreasing and then scrubbing with lacquer thinner and I let the primer fly. I removed some of the engine accessories but left the manifolds intact and painted right over the seepage around the oil pan. The fuel pump is a non-working "place holder" only. I'm forcing myself to keep this thing a camping buggy. It shall blast through woods trails without hesitation!! Blue block anyone?  Primed. Well, most of it anyways.....  And this is terrifying....  Settled in without incident.   |
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'52 M38
Dec 14, 2014 20:18:52 GMT -5
Post by Haines Garage on Dec 14, 2014 20:18:52 GMT -5
Looking Good there Sir Ryan. I like the blue engine. The replacement in my 2A was blue. Your camping buggy is looking nicer than some "Full Restorations" I have seen. Keep it coming.
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'52 M38
Dec 15, 2014 7:42:02 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 7:42:02 GMT -5
You're moving along fast. Driving by new Years? I love a Jeep that is going to be used and enjoyed. That's where it's at. Trailer Queens are ridiculous. How many interesting tales of out in the woods can you tell from a parking lot? You make me want to get after it on my own project! Good stuff. Oil
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'52 M38
Dec 17, 2014 19:58:44 GMT -5
Post by Ryan_M on Dec 17, 2014 19:58:44 GMT -5
Brake and steering components all installed. I need to align the front end and bleed and adjust the brakes but at least everything is bolted on. I'm not sure if I'm more excited to see the Jeep coming together or watching my garage floor expand as the debris field of random parts is systematically collected up and bolted back on the vehicle.  Here's another design improvement on an M38 that is worth noting - threaded shock mounts!  No special tool needed to compress those pesky lower rear mounts. I installed all four shocks without swearing once! Well, almost. I swore when I couldn't find one of the locknuts and realized I will have to pick up another one at the hardware store tomorrow. Even so, this is a much better design than the 3A cotter pin variety. And yes, I have re-installed muddy, poorly painted shocks without so much as wiping them down. They were new last year but you'd never know it. I'm hoping the mud draws attention away from some of the exposed primer on the leaf springs.   |
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'52 M38
Dec 17, 2014 20:21:58 GMT -5
Post by zooke581 on Dec 17, 2014 20:21:58 GMT -5
Looking good.
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'52 M38
Dec 17, 2014 21:18:48 GMT -5
Post by Haines Garage on Dec 17, 2014 21:18:48 GMT -5
X2 on that! Hey, what are those pieces on the battery tray in the last pic?
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'52 M38
Dec 18, 2014 6:18:14 GMT -5
Post by Ryan_M on Dec 18, 2014 6:18:14 GMT -5
X2 on that! Hey, what are those pieces on the battery tray in the last pic? I'm not sure what the proper name for them is but they are "handles" that attached to each side of the frame just forward of the front shocks. There is a rear set too and you can see one of them on the frame down near the hand brake. I don't have the right sized bolts to attach the front ones which is why they have been sitting in the battery tray for weeks. I don't know what the original intended use for them was but they make great secondary tie-down points when the Willys is on a trailer. |
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'52 M38
Dec 18, 2014 7:00:44 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 7:00:44 GMT -5
That's exactly what they are-------tie downs for shipping Jeeps in the military. There is another set about half way towards the rear also. Oil
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